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Gabe Saporta is Srz Bznz, Yo. [Feb. 11th, 2008|09:09 am]
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So here's the thing. Gabe Saporta is completely out of his mind. He is cracky and jokey and hilarious and totally casual about, like, everything.

Right?

Right?

Wrong.

HE'S A POOR IMMIGRANT VEGAN GANGSTER NEW JERSEY JEW WHO'S SECRETLY INTO POLITICS AND THINKS "IT'S WARMER IN THE BASEMENT" IS POETRY.

Recipe for Gabe Saporta:

Ingredients:
- South American heritage
- New Jersey scene
- Judaism
- Fugazi
- Justin Timberlake
- Bikini Kill
- Tequila
- Cuddles
- Robots
- Derek Zoolander
- Sweet dances moves
- EMOOOOOOTION

Equipment:
- Pete Wentz
- Basement
- Cobra

Mix Judaism, South American heritage, Jersey scene in a bowl until as smooth as a Latin boy's dance moves. Add heavy dose of Derek Zoolander and Justin Timberlake, but to balance out the flavor give it some Fugazi and Bikini Kill and EMOOOOOOTION so it's not too sugary. Let it set in a basement for a year or two. Add tequila, cuddles, robots and sweet dance moves. Feed it to Pete Wentz and let it get bit by a cobra. Enjoy!

Delicious!





I strongly believe that the only words on either Cobra record we can take seriously are "I can here to make you dance tonight," and "You only see what I let you see; nothing less, nothing more." Everything else is random made-up bullshit that he spins to entertain us. He's not actually jokey about everything; he reads books on philosophy and talks about politics to magazines. He's a vegan. He speaks Hebrew (fairly well!). He's actually really, really smart.

Here's the bio on the Midtown website. I've bolded the most important bits/my favorite bits. It starts out lulzy and more like that Gabe we know, but as he gets to the end he starts getting disturbingly sincere:


All About Gabe:

updated 5/16/03

Hi. I've never bothered to fill this out in the past. Partly because there's something weird about posting personal shit about yourself in a "profile," but mostly because I’m lazy. (Actually it's not even that. It's just that I’m neurotic, and don't want to do something unless I can be really thorough with it, so I always put it off because it seemed like a daunting task. I know, I'm crazy) Well, people complained, and others thought that the fake answers our webdudes filled in for me were real (I mean, as much as I would love to eat a restaurant called the Sex Palace, I have never been there). So here goes... I will start filling out some of this shit, and I will try to update it somewhat regularly--you know, write some crap. Oh, and if it sounds like something I say is really fucked up, I’m joking. P.S. It's 10AM now and I've been writing this since 6AM. I don't know what the hell possessed me to do this now, but I'm delirious. So any other fucked up shit I've written is not my fault either.

Birthdate
10/11/79

Birthplace

Montevideo, Uruguay. That’s in South America. That’s right, I’m an immigrant motherfuckers! I was in the poverty-ridden third world, and I’m all, “yo, I should go to America, where the streets are paved with gold, and become a rock star so I can fuck lots of girls and get free drugs!”

Favorite Food

Chick Patties (that's fake chicken, bitch)

Favorite Restaurants
New York:
Kate's Corner (4th Street and Avenue B) - Deep fried, unhealthy vegetarian food for punk rock kids who don't give a fuck about hippie bullshit, but don't want to eat cows.
Angelica's (12th Street between 2nd and 1st Ave) - Hippie bullshit vegetarian food. As I find myself becoming more of a yuppie, I start caring more about health. This is a good place to go on a date to make it seem like you have class, but you're still "hip."
Odessa (9th Street and Avenue A) - Great place to go when you're trashed at 5 AM. It's shitty and too bright, but it rules. Ask to speak to the manager.

Los Angeles:
Real Food Daily (La Cienega and Beverly) - The L.A. equivalent of Angelica's (organic and macrobiotic, no sugar, etc.), but with more flavor, and more movie stars.
Vegan Express (Barham and Cahuenga West) - Hands down the BEST fake meat I have ever tasted anywhere! They have some secret recipe and cook all the shit there from scratch. It's a secret little hole-in-the-wall, but it rules. I saw the singer of the Chili Peppers there once. He had a moustache and a model girlfriend. He rules. Get the pepper steak sandwich.

What I’m Listening to Now
Recover - Ceci N’est Pas Recover
Armor for Sleep - Dream to Make Believe
Christiansen - New Demos. HA! You gotta wait for the record!
Ol’ Dirty Bastard - Nigga Please!
Turbonegro - Apocalypse Dudes YOU NEED TO BUY THIS ALBUM NOW!
Mars Volta - Deloused in the Comatorium This shit isn’t even music anymore. It’s some fucking cosmological shit.
The Sounds - Living in America Guilty pleasure. Part of me thinks they’re bullshit, but their songs are so catchy and I want to marry the singer.
The Soundtrack of Our Lives - Behind The Music. Why is it that all the good shit comes from Sweden? The first time I saw these guys I had a religious experience. The second time I saw them, I hated them. Oh well.
Death Cab for Cutie - You Can Play These Songs With Chords

Top 10 Albums of ALL TIME, bitch!
1.Nirvana - EVERYTHING. This is the band that got me into punk rock. They changed everything.
2.Pavement – Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. I've listened to this record every time I have fallen in love in the past 8 years. I rip off their lyrics sometimes too.
3.Superchunk – TIE: On the Mouth and Foolish. All the bullshit "emo" bands today rip-off Superchunk without even knowing it.
4.Pixies – Doolittle The Pixies were able to make incredibly catchy music that was still really strange and different. Plus they were on the soundtrack to Pump Up The Volume. Why does Christian Slater suck now?
5.Sonic Youth – Daydream Nation This was my introduction to Sonic Youth and it totally redefined my notion of what music could be. Somehow though, I still ended up writing shitty pop-punk songs.
6.A Tribe Called Quest – The Low End Theory I’ve been listening to this album for 10 years now--since I was in sixth grade motherfucker--and it gets better as I get older. I now understand some of the "lingo" I wasn't "hip" to before. E.g., "I’ll bust a nut in your eye, to show you where I come from." And by now, I know every word to every song. Ask me to kick "Check the Rhyme," but I get to be Phife Dog. The best hip-hop album of all time. Good jams, no bling-bling fronts.
7.Fugazi – TIE: 13 Songs and Repeater It's one thing to have been at the forefront of a musical revolution once in your life. But to have done it several times, and continue to stay there is unbelievable. Ian Mackaye invented straight edge and was at the center of the hardcore movement in the early 80's with Minor Threat. Then he just dumped all that bullshit and started Fugazi. In between both that shit, he also, along with Rites of Spring, was responsible for "emo" with Embrace. Ian Mackaye doesn't fuck around. Shit.
8.Lifetime - Jersey's Best Dancer's This is the band that made me want to start Midtown.
9.Mission of Burma – Anthology Most under-rated band of all time. Moby covered one of their songs like 7 years ago when he tried to do a rock record. That just made everyone hate them more 'cause Moby’s a dildo.
10.Elvis Costello – This Year’s Model it's weird how people start to suck when they get older, but when Elvis made this album he was bad-ass. I bet he was fucking mad bitches back then.

Runner-Up:
Bikini Kill - The CD Version of the First Two LPs My first punk rock record. Weird, huh? I then realized I couldn’t exactly be a riot-grrl because I wasn’t exactly a girl.

Favorite 80’s Jams
1.Blondie
2.Depeche Mode
3.U2
4.Madonna
5.The Cars

Favorite Movies
I’m not gonna sit here and write comments about every movie, but I will say that “Say Anything” was the first movie I saw when I came to America, and that I’ve seen “Zoolander” 27 times. My favorite pastime is reenacting scenes from the movie, so if you see me, just quote any line from Zoolander and I’ll hit you back with the next one. My favorite scene is when Derek and Hansel aren’t each others’ “bros,” but Billy Zane’s got Derek’s back. I was a clown for Halloween, what were you?

Top 10 All Time
1.Fight Club
2.Do the Right Thing
3.Jerry McGuire
4.American Beauty
5.Say Anything
6.The Usual Suspects
7.Rain Man
8.Reservoir Dogs
9.The Graduate
10.Jacob’s Ladder

Favorite Comedies
1.Zoolander
2.Spaceballs
3.The Kentucky Fried Movie
4.Spinal Tap
5.Rushmore
6.Monty Python’s Holy Grail
7.Austin Powers
8.Brain Candy
9.Office Space
10.Happiness

Favorite TV Shows
I don’t watch TV anymore, but here’s the shit I liked when I did. Actually, I hated MASH, but I loved that theme song; it was so sad. Yeah, the Taxi theme song had the same effect on me. I think it’s because when I was really little and used to get into my parents bed when I was scared of the dark and couldn’t sleep and shit, those shows would always come on late at night. I’m old school, dog.

1.The Simpsons
2.Aeon Flux
3.The Wonder Years
4.Happy Days
5.Liquid Television
6.Kids in the Hall
7.The State
8.Tenacious D
9.In Living Color
10.Ali G
11.Three’s Company
12.Diff’rent Strokes
13.Facts of Life
14.M*A*S*H
15.Yo! MTV Raps

Favorite Books
On the Road by Jack Kerouac – This book changed my life. I read it when I was young (13) and had been brought up to think the only way to survive was to do well in school and get a good job. On the Road made me realize that there was a whole other world out there, and experience was what made life worth living.

Notes from the Underground by Fyodor Dostoevsky – After I realized that experience was what made life worthwhile, I realized that my life was still meaningless and nothing could ever change that. This book helped me understand how that could be.

Rethinking Life and Death by Peter Singer – Singer is a philosopher who tackles difficult questions and proposes radical answers for issues that we are not prepared to handle today. He believes that many of our current moral dilemmas are based on the fact that we do not have a clear definition of where life begins and ends. His argument is surprisingly rational and intuitive but it is radical in that it presupposes animals would have the right to life over coma patients with lower brain deterioration. Wow, I knew I learned something in school.


Interrupting for a minute: SERIOUSLY. FOR ANYONE WHO WASN'T INTO MIDTOWN, HOW FUCKING OUT OF LEFT FIELD WAS THAT? JACK KEROUAC. DOSTOEVSKY. THE WORDS "INTUITIVE" AND "PRESUPPOSES" AND "RATIONAL".

What I’m Reading Now
The Inner Reaches of Outer Space by Joseph Campbell – My friend Louis bought this for me for my birthday in October. I started reading it when we were in Europe with Recover in December, but I haven’t picked it back up since I’ve been home. Oh well— I’ll finish it someday. Campbell says that all religions are interconnected and basically the same. And he argues that the reason for this is because throughout millions of years we have evolved from the same organic matter and hence share a cosmological subconscious with each other and with the energies in the universe. Hence the answers to the mysteries of the universe are located inside each one of us. Hippie bullshit.

Favorite Part of Being in a Band
It’s amazing to start anything from the ground up and watch it grow every step of the way. It’s not about becoming huge, it’s about knowing that whatever you set out to accomplish, you were there at every stage and you did it with your own hands. It’s even better to get the chance to do this with your bros. I also think it’s amazing that I can have an idea in my head and eventually it will turn into a tangible piece of music. And it’s even more amazing that other people respond to it, relate to it, and appreciate it.


Me again. I love when Gabe talks about being in bands. He is so incredibley devoted to the scene- maybe even more than Pete. He's so grateful for everything that happens to him; he's written songs about it. He never fails to be amazed that he can create this stuff. He loves each and every fan individually because he knows what it feels like. God, I fucking love him.

Least Favorite Part of Being in a Band
All the bullshit in the music industry. Money ruins art—always. Even if it seems like it’s but a small tarnish. Eventually every negligible compromise will chip away at another piece of what you had initially conceived until you are left with but a hollow semblance of something you once held dear. Compromise is good in co-existing peacefully with others; it is death to art.


LOVE, YOU GUYS, LOVE. HE'S SO FUCKING EMO.

What do you play?
Bass guitar
Voice box


Here's where we get weirdly candid.

Inspirations
I’m inspired by the serious issues people need to deal with. So conversely, I am numbed and jaded by the meaninglessness and bullshit of everyday life. I want to vomit when I hear some of the nonsense people complain about. Sometimes I feel like I can’t escape an empty existence so I find myself escaping in other ways: girls I don’t give a fuck about and don’t give a fuck about me, alcohol, whatever. . . So I am drawn to people who have real problems to deal with; problems that destroy their worlds and force them to rebuild their lives with the shattered remnants. I know that that’s kind of sadistic of me, but it feels real. It’s hard though to get close to someone like that because it requires a huge emotional commitment from me, and I’m already spread so thin . . . But it’s the only thing that makes me feel anything anymore. I don’t know why I am writing all this stuff—it’s kind of fucked up.

People You Admire
As I get older and become more independent, I’ve grown to really respect my father. He was a doctor in Uruguay, but he saw that the country was going down the tubes and decided to come to America so that his children could have the chance at a better life. For over three years, we were here illegally, without a visa or a green card, so he couldn’t get a job or go to school. To make money, he sold scarves on the street. Finally when we got residency permits, he had to go back to school for 6 years (just because you’re a doctor in some bullshit third-world country, doesn’t mean you get to practice medicine here). And so I didn’t really see him until I was 11, when he finally opened up his practice. Then by the time I was 15, my parents got divorced. By the time I was 20 and the divorce was finally over, my father was left with nothing. But he just picked himself back up and started over again. The most important thing that he taught me (and really more by example than by explanation) is the value of integrity. No matter where you are in life, if you stick to your morals, work hard, and you’re an honest person, you will end up ok. Again, it’s kind of weird that I’m writing all of this, but whatever… Yeah, my dad’s a motherfucker. I also dig that Michael Moore guy—he fucks shit up!

People You Hate
I’ve been fucked pretty hard throughout my few years by several different people, but I don’t really hate any of them. I don’t waste time thinking about them; they’re just cut from my life. But I find that as a result, I’ve become angrier and more jaded. And I have less room for love in my heart now because it’s filled with so much frustration and distrust. So while I don’t really hate anyone, I kind of hate everyone. Shit—that’s fucked up.

Fears
I’m scared that I will undoubtedly fuck up anything that is good in my life. I’ll fuck it up partly because I am never satisfied and nothing is ever good enough for me, and partly, or rather: I’m never satisfied because I am so scared of getting fucked and not having control over getting fucked, that I would rather fuck it up myself. I’d rather ruin something myself, than take the chance of losing control over it. Although I am scared that this is true, I am not entirely convinced that I will always act this way. I think I have a strong tendency for this behavior, but so long as I am aware of it, I can at least diffuse it a little. Can’t I? Moreover, as a consequence of the above, I am scared that I will never be happy in a relationship. I’m also scared that my lifestyle is preventing me from having a shot at a normal relationship (which requires spending time together) and by the time I slow down, everyone will already be married, and I will only have the hordes of the lost to choose from.


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From here. 2002.

"I think it's important not necessarily for a band to be political in terms of like to preach, but I think it's important especially for bands that come from the scene to really have ideas and views and develop something more meaningful and deep. Whether it's about the world or about people or about whatever people want to have ideas about. But, definitely to be somewhat focused in something other than just rocking out and having a good time because having a good time is awesome, but I think what has made like the punk, social punk, whatever you want to call it, underground movement, survive is the fact that underneath the fun is a strong foundation of ideas and there's a movement. It's not just punk music, but the punk movement. I don't think that punk necessarily characterizes a type of music. Some people say punk is like Mohawk punks and some people say punk is Sum 41. I think punk really characterizes a type of culture. That culture is, I think of music being intertwined with ideas and spreading a message and having ideas really deviate from what you see in the mainstream. I think that what's most important is not necessarily to deviate, but to deviate in a way to give you a sense of realness. Because I think in the mainstream everything is packaged in a way to try and make you live vicariously through what you see. You see rappers and Kid Rock living these lavish lifestyles and stuff and that's not real. There is nothing real about that. There's nothing you're going to relate to. The only thing you are going to relate to is you're going to be like 'Oh wow.' You're going to be wishing you were that person. But, I think the thing about punk music is that you realize that it's a person just like you, doing something that's real and there's a connection to the music that you can do it and it should inspire you in that way. So, I think that's what is important, for people to continue that tradition."


In which he compares non-vegetarians to both slave owners and cannibals (but, you know, not in a mean way or anything):

"I just became a vegetarian when I was thirteen. I was away at summer camp and this hippie dude, I'm totally not a hippie at all you know, was just like 'Listen we're a civilized society. There's so many alternatives. There's no reason to make an animal suffer.' I've always like been compassionate for all living things and that just made so much sense to me. It was almost like I was in the dark for my whole life and I wanted to turn on a light. I was thirteen and I realized that and just abruptly I changed it and said 'Okay, I'm becoming vegetarian.' The thing is that it was so abrupt for me; it wasn't a gradual change. It was so abrupt that I remember I was eating food at a bar mitzvah and my friend was like, 'Aren't you a vegetarian now?' I'm like, 'Oh my God, I forgot.' And I totally honestly forgotten that I had chosen to become a vegetarian just because I had been doing it for so long, eating meat for so long, it just like left my mind. But, since then I haven't eaten any meat. I think like it's just one of those things, you know for everything I believe that there's a universal moral truth; there's a right and wrong in everything and for everything I do I need to find a reason for it. There needs to be a reason behind everything I do and the reasons they come from I don't want to be a hypocrite; I want to be consistent with my ideas. I can't find any reason honestly that would allow me to eat meat that would also allow me to eat people. And it's like those are the kinds of things I just consider morally wrong. And it's not like I'm not making a moral judgment saying that if you eat meat you're an ass or whatever. I think that it's the same thing with slavery. I mean it took thousands of years for people to realize that slavery was wrong. They used to say the same things about slaves that they say about animals now. You know, 'Oh well they don't have feelings. They're lower beings than us because they don't have thinking capabilities.' And it's like they would de-humanize these people. Whoever they wanted as slaves because it worked toward their benefit because it's easier and it made their life easier. And obviously eating meat is easier. It tastes better. I'm not denying that it tastes good. I'm Hispanic. I grew up eating meat three times a day and I love the taste of meat. No doubt about it, but I'm sure I'd love to see the look in someone's eye when I stab them to death, you know. But, I think that what's right and wrong I have to follow first."


(For more on veganism, please see Midtown on PETATV. He talks about how during the Holocaust, Nazis made Jews into lampshades and soap, and we do the same thing to animals and no-one thinks about it as bad. To be honest, though, I think he's going a little far when he discusses the "animal Holocaust", but I think it's awesome that he's into "conscienciousness" and stuff. Intelligent and adorable. He's amazing.

Also, see Gabe Saporta interviewing Andy Hurley for PETA2. He repeats the 'how I became abruptly vegeterian' story with added lunacy. This is CS-era Gabe, so expect crack. "What animal do you most relate to? I'm, like, a monkey, because I'm like goofy and like have lanky legs and stuff, and I'm, like, loud, and I laugh, like, like, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and stuff, yeah.")

This is really interesting, this next bit. He doesn't just talk this way; he honestly doesn't care how you get his music, so long as you get it and love it. He doesn't care!

"We have a new album. It's called Living Well Is The Best Revenge. It's kind of good. It's pretty good. You should get it or borrow it from someone and keep it or burn it."


This is 2002, remember. Before Limewire and Oink and shit. When we saw Cobra play in Montreal, he said "I don't even know if our album was released in Canada or whatever, but no-body seemed to buy it or whatever. But you're all here, and you're singing along, so I don't care how you got it!" or something along those lines. Point is. He actually means it. If you're happy, he's happy.

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From here.

More on downloading music:

"Basically the best thing about it is going on tour and having kids that have never heard your music before there to see you. Say we went on a European tour and no one had heard our music, they could easily get it from Napster. I think that Napster or just Mp3's in general give every band the opportunity to get their music heard by anybody in the world. The only people that are complaining about Napster are the ones that are super big bands that are millionaires anyways, so it doesn't make any sense for them to have any say when in fact there is in fact that Napster might be helping their band by getting their music out. Too many times people have come up to me, and it's a good thing, that have said that I heard your music off Napster and I want to buy your CD. It's great."


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Okay, this has nothing to do with Gabe, I just found this and want to show you all. It's from an interview with Rob (from Midtown).

AP.net: Well, that’s about all I have for you guys, I want to thank you again for taking the time out to do this and on that note, do you have any last words for the readers at Absolutepunk.net?

Rob: A.) sweet little dudes
B.) b.) www.i-surrender.com (that’s my label
C.) mikeyway.com (the url will be a bit different because some douchebag took took the domain already.


I LOVE THIS SCENE. I HAVE NEVER WISHED I WAS FROM NEW JERSEY BEFORE, HOLY SHIT. I HAVE ALSO NEVER WISHED I WAS A VEGAN.

[info]iamsupernova IS LAUGHING AT ME BECAUSE I MAKE FUN OF HER FOR BEING A LESBIAN VEGAN. ARIELLE, DARLING, AT LEAST I DON'T WANT TO BONE LYN-Z AS BAD AS YOU DO.

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So Gabe has always been very vocal about how much he loves the Jersey scene. He was in a committed relationship with it (wait till you see how he used to talk about it!) but then he kind of accidentally fell in love with FBR and, well, he and the Jersey scene stayed good friends and stuff, and it's not bitter or anything. He just moved on. It happens. He still sometimes reads old love letter to it and feels kind of nostalgic and wistful, but it all turned out for the best in the end.

Here is a love letter to the Jersey scene. It is a song called "In the Songs" by Midtown, of Living Well Is The Best Revenge. I uploaded it here, and I don't feel bad about uploading it for you guys because Gabe doesn't care. He'd probably be happy that I'm getting CS fans into Midtown.

The lyrics:

Remember just two years ago
When our bands were playing house shows
Were fighting for
To make a change
To live our lives the way we dreamed
Despite what they might say

Remember how we struggled though
Remember nights we spent on hard wood floors
Were fighting for
To make a change
To live our lives the way we dreamed
Despite what they might say

You're there when I fall
You'd help me be strong
Even when I lost my faith
We're standing so tall
We made it through it all
We will keep it going strong
Cause I feel it in the songs

To all my friends from around the way
Much respect
We owe you dues
We've got your back
You've got our's too
We'll be there
Should you fall
And I just wanted you to know
You can always count on me

You're there when I fall
You'd help me be strong
Even when I lost my faith
We're standing so tall
We made it through it all
We will keep it going strong
Cause I feel it in the songs

You're there when I fall
You'd help me be strong
You're there when I fall
When we made it through it all

You're there when I fall
You'd help me be strong
Even when I lost my faith
We're standing so tall
We made it through it all
We will keep it going strong
Cause I feel it in the songs

In the songs


TELL ME THAT'S NOT A LOVE SONG. JESUS CHRIST. IT'S SO ROMANTIC. "We're standing so tall! We made it through it all!" They're Romeo and Juliet! Oh my GOD!

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Also, from here again.

MH: Having such a fast start playing your first show in '99 in front of 40 people to the summer of 2001 playing with Blink 182 to 15,000 people, how did that affect you guys as a band and did you ever think you would be here today?

GS: No. I never fathomed we would be where we are and if I had we would have been smarter. We made some stupid decisions early on because we didn't plan for this to be a career. We just wanted to do it for fun as a hobby. So, definitely I had no idea I was going to get this far and it's beyond my wildest dreams which is good. I mean there is definitely goods and bads that come along with that. I think we got this far because we really worked very, very hard. I always say that if you just put your mind to something and if you are really passionate about something you can accomplish anything. We love our band and we loved what we were doing and we gave up everything for it. We dropped out of school. We all lived in a house together. We gave up our house. We moved in with our parents. I don't have a car. I don't have anything. I just have my band. So, we put everything into this band to tour full time. We started touring. I remember our first tour we couldn't afford to stay in hotels and we usually stayed in people's houses. During the shows we would announce 'Hey, I don't have a place to stay tonight.' We met some really cool people that way and had some good times. Sometimes we would roll into a town early in the morning and not know anyone there. One time in Gainesville we just pulled into town and we parked into the parking lot of a hotel and it was 3 in the morning. By 6 in the morning it was so hot. It was like middle of summer. The van was just like an oven, so we got out of the van all sweaty and stuff and walked into the pool of the hotel and pretended like we were guests there and stuff. So, that was our shower for the week. So, I mean from there to where we are now, like on a bus in less than two years, it's just because obviously one part of me... I'm not negating. I'm not saying we don't have talent. I meant I think we are pretty good. I mean we definitely have to be at least ok as a band. I'm not saying we are the best band or anything. You just have to work really hard and make it your first priority and you can do it. You can accomplish anything.


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Pete on Gabe's love for the scene and FBR:

"wow seeing the cobra video all over trl and mtv makes my mind spin. i remember talking with gabe years ago, the friendship we forged, and how much he really believes in this. thats why i support this and him and always will. because its silly, but its real."


<333333 BFFSHIP. YOU GUYS, THE ONLY SHIP I SHIP HARDER THAT GABE/PETE IS GABE/SCENE.

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BUT. Gabe broke up with the Jersey scene and left it for FBR. He was kind of cheating on it by the end, anyway. But he felt terrible about it- Gabe knows cheating is wrong. He's into honesty. So he came clean in an apology-that-is-not-an-apology called Being From Jersey Means Never Having To Say You're Sorry, which pretty much no-one pays attention to. It might be the most important song Cobra's written. It's a break-up letter to the Jersey emo-punk underground, including an explanation that "it's time" and also an attempt at explaining to Midtown fans why he's moving on- He's terrified that he's moving away from something that's been so good to him, and he's explaining on the first song on the first record that he knows Cobra Starship is utterly silly- but it's the path he's chosen. He's "dumbing [him]self down and he can tell that he's giving up his integrity- he sounds like he's "dying".

Lyrics:

Success has its price
And can you hear me now
That I'm dumbing myself down?
Is it filling you with doubt
That I am who you thought?

I know it's just a game
But I'm playing it to win
I won't forget from where I came
But it's time to take over
Oh yeah

And can you hear me now
Someone save me from the sound
Of my own voice
Can't you tell
That I sound like I'm dying?
Oh yeah

I'm tired of waiting
Yeah, I'm tired of waiting
I'm tired of being
The poor, cliche, misunderstood

Tired of waiting
Yeah, I'm tired of waiting
It's time to get faded
Because I can't think anymore


MY HEART. IT IS BROKEN. GABIKINS, AS A MIDTOWN FAN, I FORGIVE YOU. I RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO ACT LIKE A TOOL. I LOVE YOU FOR BEING HONEST, AND I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY.

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So here's the thing. As Gabe grew up a bit, and his band got more famous and he got more famous, he never ceased to be amazed that he had fans at all. He was used to small, intimate shows where he knew everyone (including Mikeyway and Beckett- hooray!) and all of the sudden they're in strange cities singing to strange kids. It's crazy, right? And in the back of his head, as they grow and sort of lose their underground cred, there's a voice in the back of his head going "selloutselloutsellout" even though he wasn't changing to suit anyone. And he worked goddamned hard for what he has, and he's devoted to the music and to the fans and to the scene, and he's finally, you know, being recognized for the art he's created and there are "fans" that still having the fucking balls to say they thing Cobra Starship isselling out because they're on MTV now.

I give up on being reasonable with these people. He. Worked. Hard. He gave up everything. He spent his whole life being "poor, cliched and misunderstood" and you have the fucking chutzpah to say that when people besides you appreciate his work, he's a sell out? You're a fucking idiot. He sweated blood for what he has. It didn't come easy. And the fact that he has to write a song stating that he "wont forget from where [he] came," just shows that there are people in hsi old scene who will critisize him, and who will give him a hard time. He knows. I'm sure some part of him thinks he shouldn't have it just because he will lose cred. But you know that? He earned it. And he didn't change only to make money. You should be fucking happy that they're successful and being rewarded for all those hours spent outside meeting every single fan and for responding to e-mails in Myspace bulletins and for writing love songs to the scene. And how dare any one of you disrespect him and say that he did something that he obviously loves only for money.

I'm pretty sure that the reason he had to respond to those concerns wasn't because he was worried about anyone would think of the band- it's because success is something he has to grapple and struggle with, something that he feels guilty about, even, in the back of his mind, and along come these "fans" who he loves so much pointing and accusing him of something he's worked hard to avoid. It hit him where it hurt. That's why he fucking wrote that message.

So fuck you, doubters.

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K that's all for now. Maybe updated as I find more reasons to love him.

Also, I say this everyday:

Interviewer: Is there anything other than music you would like to do?

Gabe: I wanna have babies. I wanna have lots and lots of babies.


And!

Living Well Is The Best Revenge (full album) - Midtown






I AM IN LOVE.

Anyway, yeah, Gabe is srz bznz and you should all know it.
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[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-02-11 10:14 pm (UTC)

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Yes it is and it should be a sort of This-Is-Not-Fandom-Gabe primer.
[User Picture]From: [info]skyfalling
2008-02-11 11:24 pm (UTC)

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Even if it isn't, I AM LINKING EVERYONE TO IT because, like, I knew Gabe was intelligent and driven in addition to being hilarious, but wtf he's even more amazing than I thought he was.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-12 01:35 am (UTC)

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IKR

Kay, actually, I was flipping out about this today. I was actually over the moon. By the time I got to "I wanna have babies! I wanna have lots and lots of babies!" I almost had a heart attack. Ask [info]iamsupernova, she was sitting next to me and telling me to stfu because we were in class and I was actually grinning and flailing at my computer.

GABRIAL EDUARDO SAPORTA, YOU BRILLIANT, CONSCIENTIOUS, GOOFY MOTHERFUCKER, WITH YOUR JEWISH VALUES AND YOUR JACK KEROUAC NOVELS AND YOUR PETA2 INTERVIEWS, I FUCKING LOVE YOU.


And thank you for the pimpage. Seriously, should I send this to [info]dotcoms_refresh?
[User Picture]From: [info]inverted
2008-02-12 12:33 am (UTC)

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Hi, I got linked here from [info]skyfalling! :)

What I LOVE about that bio, is that if you look at everyone else's (in Midtown) they basically were like "I like peanut butter and Fugazi." Gabe on the other hand probably took like five hours to write that whole thing out. The kid puts a million percent into everything he does.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-12 01:38 am (UTC)

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He took four hours. Six AM to ten AM. Do you have any idea how many times I have read that bio in it's entirety in the last thirty-six hours? I need a life so hard.

And, God, yeah, I know.

AND HE SPEAKS HEBREW hence he is a nice jewish boy and should do me under the chupah kthxbi.
From: [info]high_school_low
2008-02-12 02:26 am (UTC)

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BEST POST EVER, rly.
Especially that Fight Club is his favorite movie. And he likes Pavement!

Your Gabe Recipe is adorable too. I always describe Gabe to people as "A sexy, cheezy Jew who is 9 days tall and was born in Uraguay but grew up in Jersey, so he speaks spanish with a Jersey accent... YEAH I KNOW THAT'S AMAZING YOU GUYS!"

[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-12 04:33 am (UTC)

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:D:D HE SPEAKS HEBREW WITHOUT A JERSEY ACCENT, WHICH ROCKS BECAUSE AMERICAN HEBREW IS SHIT.

ALSO, HE'S SEPHARDIC.

<3
[User Picture]From: [info]hello_ilu
2008-02-12 02:50 am (UTC)

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AHAHA. [info]skyfalling linked me over here too and that was just. gaaaaaabriel. yay for abrupt vegetarianism. :D oh, WHAT. i'm gonna have to pimp this too, dangit. [and i may or may not have to save it to word so i can email it to people and make them read it during class, since livejournal's blocked.]

"His argument is surprisingly rational and intuitive but it is radical in that it presupposes animals would have the right to life over coma patients with lower brain deterioration."
...i just sat there and blinked at the screen for a second. and then reread it. and then blinked at the screen some more. gabriel saporta, how do you exist?
[User Picture]From: [info]skyfalling
2008-02-12 03:34 am (UTC)

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The only problem I have with that sentence is that it's rather difficult to be rational and intuitive at the same time, since intuition is, by definition, non-rational.

BUT IT'S OKAY, GABE SAPORTA. YOU USED THE WORD "PRESUPPOSES," SO I CAN FORGIVE YOU.
[User Picture]From: [info]masculinitea
2008-02-12 05:42 pm (UTC)

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Gabe ♥
omfg.
i love his vegan-ness and that he loves Fight Club and Austin Powers and Montevideo, Uruguay. That’s in South America. That’s right, I’m an immigrant motherfuckers! I was in the poverty-ridden third world, and I’m all, “yo, I should go to America, where the streets are paved with gold, and become a rock star so I can fuck lots of girls and get free drugs!”
xD
and this:

Favorite Food

Chick Patties (that's fake chicken, bitch)

THOSE ARE SO GOOD.

and just EVERYTHING. god. Gabe. love.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-12 05:46 pm (UTC)

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Oh, dude, refresh. I justjust added a bit on Being From Jersey Means Never Having To Say You're Sorry. I was like 'hm' and I listened to it and then I HAD TO ADD. OMFG GABE PLZ MARRY ME. I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY.


I LOVE HIM SO MUUUUUUUUCH.
From: [info]aubergine_eyes
2008-02-13 02:57 am (UTC)

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OMG thank you so much for making this!!! It was very informative and interesting. I didn't think it was possible for me to love Gabe anymore than I did already, but you proved me wrong. Thank you, o great teacher! :D
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 04:04 am (UTC)

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Thank you! And you're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Pimp this around, if it's not too much to ask- I want to actually get the word out about Gabe's quiet brilliance.

If you didn't download the Midtown album, you should. I highly recommend it.
[User Picture]From: [info]blushandrecover
2008-02-13 03:23 am (UTC)

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Thank you so much for doing this. I'm sick of everyone saying that Gabe is stupid or creepy or pointless. It's always like, Dude, I've talked to the guy, he's smart and nice and has amazing taste in movies.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 04:05 am (UTC)

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He's kind of my hero, a little.

You're welcome, and thank you for reading! Pimp this out, if it's not too much to ask- I want to spread this around. He needs more love.
[User Picture]From: [info]_stargazing
2008-02-13 06:47 am (UTC)

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Oh, Gabe. ♥ I already loved him, kind of just for being him, but now I'm completely enamored. Seriously, I just want to cuddle up on a couch somewhere, quote Zoolander at each other, and exchange stories about abrupt vegetarianism and philosophy with him for days. He's almost too amazing to exist.

I can't thank you enough for making this. Most people tend to view Gabe as a one dimensional hyperactive asshole, but he's so much more than that. Hopefully this will help people see that.

(here via dotcom_refresh, btw.)
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 02:39 pm (UTC)

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Thank you! I'm glad.

I also like that he doesn't flaunt his intelligence. He doesn't have to blog about every book he's read or every thought he's had. He doesn't brag- he's just happy being brilliant and he's comfortable enough with himself and mature enough to know that he can get attention for other things.

If it's not to much to ask- plug this! I want it to get around.
From: [info]lessthangreat
2008-02-13 08:23 am (UTC)

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Okay, hi, I don't know you but I'm going to be totally forward right now: I think I'm in love with you. More so with Gabe, but like, a lot with you, too. I'm sure he wouldn''t mind.

I've been a fan of Gabe's since I was in 8th grade and heard Save the World, Lose the Girl and just about lost my mind at how awesome I thought it was. I loved Midtown's music, but could admittedly not care less about any member in that band other than Gabe, because of stuff like in this post, seriously. And I think I'm one of like, 10 Midtown fans who followed him to the Cult of the Cobra, which is what got me into bandom at all in the first place. I didn't even like FOB or Panic or TAI or any other band on FBR until Cobra Starship came into my life, and I thank Gabe for that, entirely.

He is probably the greatest person ever, tbh. And I know that the Cobra fans love him because they think he's crazy and crackey and jokey and loves the furry mpreg, which you know, whatever, he does and that's great and funny and awesome, but there's way more to Gabe than he shows us through Cobra, and it's totally time for people to see that, and so I'm linking my entire flist to this post, just to let you know. :D

In conclusion:
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 02:12 pm (UTC)

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I've been a fan since seventh grade (I have a great "discovering Midtown" story, too, which includes googling the words "army of sheep" and a total stranger asking me if I was angry). I'm one of those other 9 Midtown fans that followed him to Hollaback Boy and beyond. lol, that was so fucking surreal, seeing that Myspace with the song on it like, "Is that- Gabe Saporta? With a- Is that a Furby? What the fuck?"

jhdekjhswdkjndckjaje. HE WANTS TO DO HIS PART TO END THE ANIMAL HOLOCAUST. HE LISTENED TO WHITESNAKE WHEN HE WAS LIKE SIX. HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT DOWNLOADING MUSIC. HE'S AFRAID OF (I didn't include this because it's a Midtown reference that no-one would get) BECOMING EVERYTHING THAT HE HAD HATED (I'M WAITIN'! FOR THIS TO BLOW AWAY!")

I will admit though that Cobra is not what got me into Bandom, but all the same. HARTS FOR THEM ALL.

Thank you so, so much for the pimpage. I want this out in the world! I want all the Cobra fans to know!
[User Picture]From: [info]britchick5000
2008-02-13 09:02 am (UTC)

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Eeeee! Gabe! I &hearts him so much! I love Midtown, but I only have a little bit of their stuff. And Cobra is by far my most favourite of the FBR family music wise.
I think it's really great that for once people can have a squeefest about gabe that isn't all about the creepy-dude-fic-persona.
There's an AP podcase with Gabe and Ryland which pretty much cemented my love for him totally. It's an hour of him talking really articulately about stuff that matters to him. It's Number 9 here or you can subscribe on iTunes, but I really recommend it for anyone that thinks Gabe is awesome.
PS. Thanks for the album
PPS. I saw you said he was Sephardi? Huh. I didn't know that.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 01:52 pm (UTC)

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Thank you so much.

Well, he's South American, so yeah, Sephardi. Do you know the difference? Southern European Jews (Spanish, Morroccan) are Sephadic and Northern European Jews (Polish, Russian) are Ashkenazi.

You're welcome for the album. Thank you so much for that podcast. It's downloading right now. I'll probably end up including some quotes if it's even remotely worthwhile.
[User Picture]From: [info]expatiates
2008-02-13 09:08 am (UTC)

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gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabe. god. HEARTS HEARTS HEARTS. i knew some of this stuff, a lot of it i didn't, all of it i am very happy to know now. i want to re-read because that was a lot to take in all at once (in the very best way), but i just want to give you some MAJOR love for this:
He. Worked. Hard. He gave up everything. He spent his whole life being "poor, cliched and misunderstood" and you have the fucking chutzpah to say that when people besides you appreciate his work, he's a sell out? You're a fucking idiot.

A+++++ to that whole rant, frankly. i've hated the term "sellout" for as long as i can remember and it absolutely does not apply to gabe. 95% of the time that people get called sellouts, it's because some douchebag fan is pissed off that some band they like has become popular and is no longer some obscure band they can feel cool for liking 'cause nobody else knows who the fuck they are. ugh, HATE.

and once more, with feeling: gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabe. ♥
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 01:58 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, "sell out" is tossed around a lot these days by people who use it incorrectly. And I just feel that, like- For Gabe, it must have been a big deal. He's not, like, Jack White, who sold a song to Coke commercial out of spite for his scene (which I support, by the way, not to knock Jack). He obviously was struggling with it himself for a long time. And the fact that anyone would call him on it when it's not true? Fucking assholes. How fucking dare you.

But yeah, that whole bit was added as an afterthought. Because he's smart, aware, ethical, selfless, talented and fucking drop-dead-gorgeous. He's pretty much the perfect man, right? lol.
[User Picture]From: [info]prettykitty_aya
2008-02-13 02:23 pm (UTC)

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a million &hearts to you AND gabe. awesomeness all around!!
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 02:24 pm (UTC)

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Hooray! Thank you!
[User Picture]From: [info]phillyfilly
2008-02-13 04:12 pm (UTC)

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Thanks so much for putting this all together and esp. giving us the Midtown download!
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 04:43 pm (UTC)

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Thank you! I'm glad you like it. Pimp it around!
[User Picture]From: [info]jbftw
2008-02-13 09:09 pm (UTC)

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Hi! You don't know me but I just had to comment cos this whole thing was way too awesome and I agree with everything you said and wish more people could see it that way.And we seem to have massive amounts of Gabe!love in common so yay! BTW, I love Midtown so much it's ridiculous, tbh I just recently got into them cos of Cobra but I've grown to love them sosososo much (yay LWITBR!I'm currently looking to buy t actually) and they're totally one of my fave bands now.

[User Picture]From: [info]jbftw
2008-02-13 09:30 pm (UTC)

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oh and I just wanna say that this further proves the fact that Gabe hasn't changed just cos he's in Cobra now, I hate it when people say that like they've known him forever.
[User Picture]From: [info]hearthisvoice
2008-02-13 09:46 pm (UTC)

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You have blown my mind today.

Thank you.

I'll be listening to Gabe and trying to put the pieces back together. Oh my god how I want to speak sad, stilted conversational Hebrew with him.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 10:03 pm (UTC)

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Is your username "hear this voice" or "heart his voice"? It could be either.

I'm glad! I blew my my mind when I compiled all of this. Or rather, Gabe blew my mind. Have fun trying to figure him out now- I'm still working on it. This this has been updated like four times since I originally posted it.

Omerta Ivrit? Ani omeret Ivrit! Ani smecha. Ze kol z'man tov le'pagash acharim Yehudim al ha'internet!
[User Picture]From: [info]bluejbird
2008-02-13 10:25 pm (UTC)

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Here via bandom_university and I have to say OH MY GOD thank you for this. I know nothing of Gabe pre-Cobra, so this was wonderful, particularly getting an insight into his mind (which is a far less scary place that I thought it would be).
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-13 10:52 pm (UTC)

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You're welcome! He's not scary! Isn't it awesome!?

Anyway, yeah, let's start a discussion at [info]band_university! I want to hear what everyone thinks.
[User Picture]From: [info]hellocalamity
2008-02-14 05:43 am (UTC)

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Oh my God, Gabe. He reads Peter Singer? His second favorite movie is Do the Right Thing??? Oh my god, I think I’m going to die. I am so sorry for ever doubting him!!

(Also, you? Are awesome for compiling this!)
[User Picture]From: [info]hellocalamity
2008-02-14 05:47 am (UTC)

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ALSO: RIOT GRRRL. ::falls over:: Every time I think he could not POSSIBLY get more perfect, HE DOES. I cannot spend my life comparing every boy I date to Gabriel fucking Saporta, because NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER MEASURE UP!!

Gabe is not good for my mental health D:
[User Picture]From: [info]vassilissa
2008-02-14 01:43 pm (UTC)

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Well, you convinced me. And I love that PETA interview almost as much as I (like a lot of vegans) hate PETA.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-14 02:01 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, I know, PETA's loopy. But the cause is as good as the methods are bad, so I like that he gave the interview. I also like that he made it clear that they don't hate people who aren't vegetarian, because PETA doesn't. Hahah.

Gaaaaaaaaaabe <3
[User Picture]From: [info]citibyrd
2008-02-15 09:34 am (UTC)

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I love this post SO, SO MUCH. I mean, I knew Gabe was awesome, but I clearly didn't know just how awesome. Thank you so much for gathering all of this info!
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-15 01:20 pm (UTC)

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You're welcome! Thank you for reading, I'm glad you learned something.
[User Picture]From: [info]mmeguilotn
2008-02-15 04:43 pm (UTC)

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I see someone already linked you to the AP Podcast, but let me just reiterate how much that got me thinking about so many of the things you are talking about here. Especially when he's talking about how his friends are getting old and settling down and not really interested in appealing to the kids anymore, and they all kind of think he's crazy.

In conclusion, OMG SO MUCH YES.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-16 01:14 am (UTC)

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:D:D:D:D:D

YES YES.
Thanks!
[User Picture]From: [info]neverneverfic
2008-02-16 12:49 am (UTC)

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hi this is amazing like woah. holy shit.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-16 01:08 am (UTC)

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Thank you! hksjdhwkedhwk GABE you six and a half foot blob of brilliance and goodness and woobie. I WANT TO HUG HIM AND EAT, LIKE, VEGAN JEWISH SOUL FOOD WITH HIM.

Anyway, yeah. Thanks. :)
[User Picture]From: [info]prairiedaun
2008-02-16 01:20 am (UTC)

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Oh wow. This was brilliant, thank you.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-16 01:26 am (UTC)

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You're welcome! I hope you learned something, lol.
[User Picture]From: [info]desultory6
2008-02-16 03:57 am (UTC)

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Wow, this is awesome. You are made of win for putting it together.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-16 04:47 am (UTC)

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Thank you! I hope you learned something. :)
[User Picture]From: [info]theworstliar
2008-02-17 02:55 am (UTC)

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THANK YOU THIS IS AMAZING.

i knew the basics, but not the details, so this is massively helpful and educational for me. again, THANK YOUUU. you win. <3
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-02-17 05:23 pm (UTC)

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Good! I'm glad you learned! Thank you and you're welcome. :)
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