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I WOULDN'T HAVE TO WRITE THIS WHOLE MEGILEH;
Or, Gabe Is A Jew, A Miniprimer.


Part One: The Superficial Evidence.

AKA some pictures that make it obvious if you know how to recognize the symptoms.

First and foremost, there's the Jewfro. His Jewfro was way Jewfroier than Trohman's is, because Trohman's is just big and kind curly. Gabe had some serious volume goin' on back in the day:



YEP. And a close-up:



YEAH WUT.

Anyway. Also, despite being only half Sphardic and being born in Uruguay, Gabe is a fuckin' Moroccan. Now, now offense is meant to any Jewish Moroccan boys who read this, but you all look exactly the same. You all wear the same sneakers, have the same haircut, and wear the same coats and jewelery. Which is to say, you look like this:



OH MR. SAPORTA. YOU CRACK ME UP. lol, anyone in the Jewish community will immediately know what I mean. HUGE FUCKING SPHARDI, RIGHT? I would like to point out that Gabe is to Judaism how Travis is to race- he's a half-breed, so to speak, and a lot of the time people like that are forced to pick a side. Are you Sphardic, or Ashkenaz? I think it's pretty clear what he chose in the end.

Ahaha.

And so, now that we've established that Gabe looks like a Jew, let's take a look at some thing he does (without explicitly stating the words "I am a Jew") to display his identity.

Part Two: Dispute This, Assholes.

First of all, there's the Magen David necklace. I can't find a very clear photo of it (tell me if you've found one, please!) but out of the clearer photos I found, I chose this one because it's 1) kinda famous and easily recognisable and 2) FUCKING HOT.



SEE? SEE THAT? This one, too:



And one of my favorite repeated-wear items that Gabe owns: THE CHAI BELT BUCKLE.

No, not chai, like the tea. "Chai", like the Hebrew word for life, a common Jewish good luck symbol. We wear it on necklaces, earrings, bracelets. It's value according to Jewish numerology is eighteen, which lead to the practice of giving monetary gifts for special occasions such as bar mitzvahs and weddings in denominations of eighteen. You can say you "gave chai" when you give $18 or that you "gave double chai" when you give $36. Common riffs on this include $180 and $360 for more generous gift-givers.

POINT IS.





...nggh. What was this post about, again?

Part Three: Quotes and Other Obvious Actions.



AND HE'S SO FUCKING PLEASED ABOUT IT, TOO. OH, GABORTA, YOU BIG SILLY JEW.

So, uh, yes. As if that last picture didn't clear it up for all you goyim (that means non-Jews, by the way. SERIOUSLY, you guys, oy vey), here's a little family history, as described by AP magazine's Brendan Manley:



Therefore, yes. Yes! Yes. Side note: Awww, illegal immigrant childhood. ♥ HOW SO AWESOME, GABRIEL!?

Anyway, I can't find the quote where he states it, but he's said he went to private school a bunch of times. It was actually a Jewish private school, because it was the only place that would take him free of tuition. He learned to speak Hebrew there, and he hasn't forgotten it, either. YOU, DEAR READERSHIP, MIGHT DREAM ABOUT GABE TALKING DIRTY IN SPANISH, BUT I HAVE MY OWN FATASIES, OKAY!?

SOME BACKGROUND BEFORE THE NEXT VIDEO: Gabe, for anyone that may not know, is a closet genius. More on that here, if you're interested. /shameless self-promotion. He majored in Political Science and Philosophy in University (AND MANAGED A 4.0 GPA). He's also a strict vegetarian. So, basically an all-around Good Jewish Boy, as our bubbies and zaydies would say, and a terrific dude.

He's also a strong supporter of PETA (I know, I know. I know what you're thinking. Me too, whatever). He's worked with them numerous times, but I'm not gonna get into all that now. Maybe I'll do a "Gabe Is A VeggieHead!" miniprimer some other time.

For now, though, I have a video to show you of Gabe waxing philosphical about vegetarianism. Watch or dowload it off PETATV here, or watch a shitty quality YouTube version here:



Point of note is at about 1:50. Transcribed myself, and it's hard to hear, so bear with me. He's prone to, us. Run on sentences. Ugh.
When your grandkids ask 'What were you doing during the animal holocaust?" what are you goann be able to say? And that's really true, like, some German kids, who's parents were, like, not sympathizers with the Nazis themselves but just didn't do anything to stop it. And the kids are just completely ashamed and embarrassed that they didn't do anything to stop it, and, like, that was the situation with the Jews because they thought they were a different race that was lower than us and they used them for lampshades and soap and stuff like that. And then we realized that's wrong. And now I think we're at the point, I think, where we're expanding our compassion to include human- to include, yeah, things that are not of our species but still have characteristics that entitle them to rights of life."
While I do think that the comparison between Jews and animals is a little bit radical, I see his point. Also, for all you Yiddisher kinder out there with inquiring minds, this puts him firmly in the catagory of "the wicked son", passover-wise. It is the self-exclusion, ("What does this service mean to you?") that makes the wicked son wicked. Gabe is describing the events as if they did not occur to him or even his own people, but to some other people. Go figure.

Judaism comes up a lot in interviews with him, actually. My personal favorite context for bringing up the fact that he's Jewish is the following:
OS: If you had to lick condiments off each member of Fall Out Boy's body, what would you choose and why?
Gabe: Different condiments for each person?

OS: Yeah. Joe's has to be kosher, and Andy's has to be vegan, too?
Gabe: Pete, I know. Pete would be spicy brown honey mustard, because he's spicy and sweet [laughs] Patrick, uh?.
Vicky-T: HP sauce.
Gabe: What's HP sauce?
Vicky-T: It's so good! It's an amazing British sauce. Sweet but like, savoury?

Gabe: I think Patrick would be soy sauce, you know. He's very fair, a quiet dude, smooth. It'd be a nice contrast. Slide off really nicely. Joe Trohman would have to be... what's a Jewish condiment? [long pause] I'm Jewish. I should know Jewish condiments?

OS: So should I?
Gabe: Are you Jewish? What's that thing we use at Passover that's like this horseradish sauce? I think it's called...

OS: Yeah, I just call it horseradish sauce.
Gabe: Okay, horseradish sauce. So horseradish sauce for Joe because you use it at Passover. And uh, Andy Hurley? I'd have to use just straight up ketchup because he's like, all-American.
Vicky-T: Yeah.
For the record, it's called maror (THANK YOU, [info]pandorathene). But whatever, GABE ILU.

Also, Gabe is a true-blue Jew and peppers his speech with Yiddishisms (See? He's only half Sphardic, guys!) In his epic 25 page response to Elisa's public discussion of her dismissal, He included the following phrase:
"...and she has refused to agree on a way of exiting that would have been graceful for both parties. And therefore now I have to type up this whole megillah. Oy vey!"
OY VEY, INDEED. HE HAD TO TYPE UP THAT WHOOOOOLE MEGILLAH.

Anyway, now you know that Gabe's a Jew.

Bonus lolz, though! Gabe getting punched in the face by none other than his beautiful friend Tyler Rann, back in Midtown. Gabe accidently cracked Tyler's head open in a Trohman-like bass swing (it's a Jew thing) and this was Tyler's planned revenge. In two parts!




THE END, OY VEY.
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[User Picture]From: [info]ix_tab
2008-06-16 01:42 am (UTC)

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Also, there is that pic where Gabe has 'Jews rule' written on his knuckles.

This is awesome, by the way. :D
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 01:50 am (UTC)

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NEVER SEEN IT, THEREFORE MY LIFE IS LACKING.
[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-06-16 03:33 am (UTC)

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OMG I AM GONNA WRITE THAT ON MY KNUCKLES

EMILY: YOU + ME MATCHING KNUCKLE TATTS FTMFW?
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 09:42 am (UTC)

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OMFG YES
YESYESYES
[User Picture]From: [info]smashfantastic
2008-06-16 01:45 am (UTC)

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BZZT WRONG. Charoset is the sweet mix, MAROR is the horseradish. (Also, I'm kinda eh about the halfbreed and looks-like comments, but otherwise I LOVE this primer! Ahaha, I am eighteen, I am LUCKY. Except for the part where I have to go back to work now. Daaamn yooou, RL.)
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 01:54 am (UTC)

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I THOUGHT THAT, BUT I WASN'T SURE, SO I WAS JUST GONNA TRUST ARIELLE BECAUSE I AM A LAZY ASS WHO CAN'T EVEN BE BOTHERED TO GOOGLE IT. I'M SICK, OKAY. I DRAGGED MYSELF OUT OF BED TO DO THIS.

Oh, come on, he looks like he's Sphardic. It's like saying a black person looks black. They don't have to dress "like a black person", they just look like one. Because they are one. As to "half-breed", I really wanted to say "biracial", but that's not really a term you can use in this context, so I settled by adding a "so to speak" and hoping no-one would be offended. Sorry! If you really think I should change it, I will.
[User Picture]From: [info]smashfantastic
2008-06-16 01:58 am (UTC)

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That's why I'm "eh" and not >:( . Labels are HARD, and I have no idea what word to use that wouldn't make me twitch, so, not offended. Just, *twitch*. (Also, pedant, kinda... *sheepish*) No worries.

I should turn off google notifier if I really want to stay focused, shouldn't I? Oh, well.
[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-06-16 03:35 am (UTC)

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At least he doesn't wear huge hoodies with fur hood trip and gel his hair up into fauxhawks like the Moroccan Mafia who lurk the mall near our school.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 09:41 am (UTC)

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...I'M SURE HE DOES IN SECRET. I'M SURE. I'M SURE WHE HAS A DETACHABLE FUR HOODIE ON HIS WINTER COAT SO HE CAN TAKE IT OFF WHEN HE'S WITH ASHKENAZIM AND REATTACH IT WHEM HE'S WITH SPHARDIM. TRUFAX.

ARIELLE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THIS MORE. AND MAYBE COMMENTFIC.

IN OTHER NEWS, MY NEXT PRIMER, INSTEAD OF BEING "WHAT WERE YOU DOING DURING THE ANIMAL HOLOCAUST; OR, GABE SAPORTA IS A VEGETARIAN" WILL BE "MY SUBMISSION OS YOUR ADDICTION; OR, WHY YOU SHOULD WRITE GABE AS A SUBBY COCKSLUT, END OF STORY."

MY LIFE. IS IT EXCELLENT, NO?
[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-06-16 06:46 pm (UTC)

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OH MANNNN

WE SERIOUSLY NEED TO WRITE GABE-IN-PRIVATE-JEWISH-SCHOOL

HE WAS US
[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-06-16 03:34 am (UTC)

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I NEVER SAID CHAROSET WAS THE HORSERADISH ONE

I CAN SEE HOW YOU ASSUMED THAT

BUT NO

I JUST DECIDED I WOULD RATHER LICK CHAROSET OFF GABE SAPORTA'S HIP-DIPS THAN MAROR.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 09:42 am (UTC)

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...I SUCK. ALSO, YUM, CHAROSET. AND LOL HIP-DIPS.
[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-06-16 03:31 am (UTC)

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WILL READ LATER

FOR NOW:

ON THE PUNK GOES 80S ALBUM:

"YOUR LOVE" BY THE OUTFIELD

COVERED MY MIDTOWN
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 09:35 am (UTC)

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UH I'VE HAD THAT ON MY IPOD FOR WEEKS
HOW GOOD IS THAT PART, I THINK IT'S AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND VERSE, WHERE HE LIKE SCREAMS IT? OMG GOOD. I WISH HE DID THAT MORE OFTEN.
[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-06-16 03:39 am (UTC)

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[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 09:35 am (UTC)

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THAT IS FALSEFAX, SRY2SAY.
[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-06-16 06:45 pm (UTC)

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HOW DO WE KNOW

I MEAN I FORGOT TO ASK HER FOR CONFIRMATION

BUT HOW DO WE KNOW EITHER WAY
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 07:49 pm (UTC)

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I've always heard that he and Ryland worked there "even though neither of us are Jewish".

Also, don't you think it would've come up, seeing how Gabe's all "HOMG JEW POWER"? I feel like it would've been a thing if Gabe, Elisa and Alex were all Jews, you know? Like a "lol Jews can't dance" thing?
[User Picture]From: [info]iamsupernova
2008-06-16 07:52 pm (UTC)

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Truefax.

D: D: D:
[User Picture]From: [info]britchick5000
2008-06-16 08:53 am (UTC)

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I <3 this primer and all it's lovely Gabey-goodness.
Also, it's all the yiddish that boy uses that made me go o_O really when the AP article came out and said he was half-sephardi. I guess the Jewish community in my area is so tiny that we don't have "Moroccan Mafia" to compare him to :)
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-16 09:36 am (UTC)

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Oh, yeah. We have the full range. Hell, we have separate synagogues, separate schools, racism between denominations- the full deal. WHOOP-DEE-DOO.
[User Picture]From: [info]theaerosolkid
2008-06-17 01:50 am (UTC)

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This is one of my most favouritest posts ever, A+!!!
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-17 02:59 am (UTC)

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LOL YAY THANKS.
[User Picture]From: [info]magdalyna
2008-06-17 03:11 am (UTC)

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I'm not sure I've told you how cool I think you are.

And this is excellent!
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-17 10:24 am (UTC)

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:DDDDDDDD

Yay, thanks!





homg you're into batman added back a millionfold


HOMG AND YOU'RE THE ONE THAT WROTE THAT EPIC RAPPER THING YAYYY
[User Picture]From: [info]globesxmaps
2008-06-17 05:22 pm (UTC)

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I dont really wanna burst your bubble but you do realize that the main religion in Morocco is the Islam and that only 0,2% of the population is Jewish?

Seriously, I dont wanna be a brat & I feel stupid for saying this, just thought you might wanna know.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-17 06:25 pm (UTC)

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I take it you're not Jewish, then? Or if you are, you're a Diaspora Jew whose only Jewish community (if any) is your own temple/synagogue? No offense.

Okay, of course Morocco is not mainly a Jewish nation, but Moroccan Jews (esp the teenage boys) all have this... look to them. They all look like that. They like to pretend they're tanned Italians, basically, but more agressive. So, yes, Moroccans do not look like tanned Italians, they look like Arabs, because that's what they are. Moroccan Jews are a whole other story.
[User Picture]From: [info]globesxmaps
2008-06-19 07:12 pm (UTC)

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Haha wow, take it easy. I didn't mean to attack you or anything. I thought you might be confused with religion/country. You're not. Obviously. That's cool. No need to bite.

I am not a Jew, or a Muslim. If I were a Jew though, I would probably be offened right now. Chill okay? I didn't try to be mean.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2008-06-19 07:53 pm (UTC)

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Oh, I didn't mean to be mean. I'm just saying- You're obviously not.

Sorry if I offended.
[User Picture]From: [info]magdalyna
2008-06-17 05:55 pm (UTC)

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Awesome.

<3 Bats are love. Screwed in the head love.

I'm still writing the epic rapper thing, actually. Just got sidetracked by Big Bang.
[User Picture]From: [info]xmexandxyoux
2009-12-04 09:06 pm (UTC)

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I knew Gabe was Jewish, (I am too, high-five!) but this was very cool. Kudos to you! This was awesome.
[User Picture]From: [info]rawkenr0ll
2009-12-04 11:09 pm (UTC)

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oh, man, this is so old. i should update this. so much more canon now (also, a lot of it is refrencing jewish stereotypes, which makes me :///)

but w/e this one time he sang hava nagilah on webcam
or some other one we all know, i forget.
and 82359321 "i'm too cheap to be a celebrity and buy a $6000 suit, i'm a jew," comments. shit like that.

and saying "keep it kosh, brothers and sisters".

also this icon.
[User Picture]From: [info]xmexandxyoux
2009-12-07 10:25 pm (UTC)

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also that quote from alt press when he said he had the best of both worlds; he's jewish so he's good with money and spanish so he can dance. :-)